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- From: JNavas@NavasGrp.com (John Navas)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
- Subject: Re: Why 33600?
- Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 01:02:14 GMT
- Organization: The Navas Group of Dublin, CA, USA
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- [Posted to comp.dcom.modems]
- estarry@oro.net (Ed Starry) wrote:
-
- > Simply put, 'A cached serial port is a serial port that's cached!'
-
- There is no such thing as caching for a serial port. There is buffering,
- but that's a different thing entirely.
-
- >An
- >internal modem IS cached.
-
- No internal modems are cached. Most are buffered (either 16550-type FIFO or
- "smart" buffering); some are unbuffered (16450-type UART). A smart buffer
- prevents overrun by having more buffering and/or by using flow control more
- effectively.
-
- >An external modem ISN'T, unless it's using a
- >cached serial port card (Hayes ESP, et al).
-
- External modems have the same options as internal ones. The Hayes ESP
- simply provides "smart" buffering.
-
- >I'm referring to the 1,024 byte,
- >or higher, DRAM I/O Buffers that are tied together with a Caching Controller
- >and straddle the UART.
-
- There is no "caching" controller, only a "smart" buffer controller.
-
- >This caching is "mandatory" for on the fly
- >compressing of zip/gif files.
-
- What "on the fly compressing of ZIP/GIF files?" These files are compressed
- before transmission.
-
- > My little internal 14.4 runs very nicely at a 115,200 bps rate (Enhanced
- >V.42bis)
-
- So does mine, with only a 16550-type FIFO. 115,200 bps has nothing to do
- with V.42bis, "enhanced" (whatever that means) or otherwise, or any sort of
- "caching." Regardless, there's no need to run a 14.4 modem that fast --
- 57,600 is more than enough even for compressible files. My 486-25 laptop
- does just fine at that speed with only a standard UART.
-
- > You desire hardware caching for your CD-ROM, I have hardware caching for my
- >modem. Same idea, things go faster! I might ask, 'Why would you want a modem
- >that DOESN'T have its serial port cached?' Contrary to popular belief many
- >14.4 modems can transfer files at a 11,000+ cps rate.
-
- I challenge you to provide any hard evidence to back up that claim. At 14.4
- Kbps (v.32), compressed files are limited to about 1700 cps, and real-world
- compressible files rarely exceed 3400 cps. A "smart" buffer (e.g., Hayes
- ESP) does not make "things go faster" -- like a 16550 it just helps to
- prevent overrun. And generally speaking, add-on "smart" buffering (e.g.,
- Hayes ESP) is usually a waste of money at 14.4 Kbps.
-
- The "best" current modem interface is arguably a parallel port using a
- special "smart" driver. Yet the USR Courier V.Everything on a standard
- 16550 UART at 115.2 Kbps outperforms the ZyXEL 2864 on a parallel port
- running 2-4X faster, even when the Courier is limited to 28.8 Kbps speed.
- (Both are, of course, about twice as fast as your 14.4 Kbps modem, Hayes ESP
- notwithstanding.)
-
- p.s. You have to be careful measuring transfer rates when using increased
- buffering like the Hayes ESP -- the increased buffering tends to fool comm
- software into overstating the transfer rate on smaller files. Transfer at
- least a megabyte to cancel out this effect.
-
- --
- Best regards,
- John mailto:JNavas@NavasGrp.com http://web.aimnet.com/~jnavas/
- 28800 Modem FAQ: http://web.aimnet.com/~jnavas/modem/faq.html
-